Fuzzy Islamic History About Argentina

Fuzzy Islamic History About Argentina


Posted on YouTube: December 9, 2022
Note: There were some Muslim immigrants, but not a half million.

Muslims tend to exaggerate.

The largest immigrant strains were:

1) The Italians (who ended up speaking Spanish, because the Spanish got there first)
2) The Spanish
3) The French
4) The Germans
5) Arabs (most of whom were Christian, and usually the Muslims among them dropped out of Islam)
5) Other Europeans like the Ukrainians, and yes, British, Irish, and Scandinavians

Officially – on paper – there are lots of Muslims in Argentina: supposedly half a millions (by descent, not immigration). However, most of those Muslim Argentines tend to intermarry into a branch of Christianity, or drift into non-observance, or convert themselves.

Such people may not officially change their affiliation on paper.

This video explains it.


(The video is set to the right time.) This imam admits that the official figure
of half a million Muslims in Argentina is ridiculous.
Argentina assimilates/converts Muslims very well.
Posted on YouTube: September 22, 2015

Islamic clerics like to boast of higher numbers than they really have. If someone was born to Muslim parents, they are counted as Muslim even if they never attended a mosque, or if they converted out.

Source: Islam in Argentina – Pedro Breiger

Arab immigration to Argentina was quite considerable in the late 19th century, after World War I and up to the mid-20th century , having become its third most important immigration wave. Of these immigrants, 40% are estimated to have been Muslims or children or grandchildren of Muslims.

Forty percent of Argentina’s Arabs had one Muslim ancestor, yet Argentina’s Arabs are only about 10% Muslim today, if even that. Even then, most Argentine Muslims are not practicing at all. This means a steady translation over to Christianity, whether by conversion, intermarriage, or just simple neglect.

That is the real ongoing situation concerning Islam in Argentina … and in the rest of Latin America.

The religion that IS growing in Argentina is Evangelical Christianity.

On top of that, Argentina has just elected a president sympathetic to Israel.

The basic pattern in South America is basically this.

A) The vast majority of Arabs who immigrated to Latin America were Christians (often fleeing some form of Muslim persecution).

B) Those Muslims who did arrive usually intermarried with Christians, converted to Christianity, or had their children raised Christian.

C) Those who remained Muslim were often not practicing. Until recently, there was nothing in Latin America which facilitated an Islamic lifestyle.

D) Until the 1980s-90s, when Arab oil subsidies floated in, Islam in Latin America – which was incredibly small to begin with – almost died out.

E) So the numbers for Muslims in South America are often inflated, not taking into account those who dropped out.

F) The rise of Evangelical Christianity is winning the spiritual battle in Latin America.

AND NEVER FORGET — The statistics for Muslims can often be horribly exaggerated.

There are small cells of Hezbollah; but while worrisome, they are few in number, often just drug smugglers raising cash for their cause.

Meanwhile, Argentina has blacklisted Hezbollah, because of attacks on Argentine soil. And the border region of Brazil, Argentine, and Paraguay (the Triple Frontier) was worrisome for a while, but the FBI and Mossad went down there and helped the locals clean it up. Again, it was mostly smuggling to raise cash.

However, Islamic penetration into the general population is very small.


3 January 2024 – Edited: Made corrections. Improved writing.

Argentina Will Host Jewish Version of Olympics

Argentina Will Host Jewish Version of Olympics

While a lot of Latin America is condemning Israel for the war in Gaza, Argentina has just elected a president who converted to Judaism, and is a fan of Israel.

Talk about contrasts.

So, the Jews of Latin America are holding their Maccabi games in Argentina.

What are the Maccabi games?

They are a sort of Olympic games for Jews.


Posted on YouTube: May 30, 2012

Source: A scaled-back Israeli delegation is headed to the Pan American Maccabi Games in Argentina
The Forward
by Jacob Gurvis
December 18, 2023

(JTA) — With the Pan American Maccabi Games set to begin in Argentina next week, an Israeli delegation of more than 200 athletes was planning to join 5,000 Jewish participants from across the world who will compete in 30 sports.

But, as with practically every facet of Israeli society, Oct. 7 changed their plans.

Now a pared down group of 74 Israeli athletes will head to Argentina for the 15th edition of the international tournament. Forty-five of them live in communities close to the Gaza Strip, the area attacked on Oct. 7, according to a press release from the Maccabi World Union, the global governing body that puts on the quadrennial Maccabiah Games in Israel and other international tournaments.

What this means is that Latin America is split in its sympathies. Indeed, even countries are split in their sympathies.

Argentina Has Elected a Very Pro-Zionist President

Argentina Has Elected a Very Pro-Zionist President


Posted on YouTube: November 21, 2023

Javier Milei is considered Argentina’s version of Donald Trump. He is very right wing, and very pro-Zionist. He plans to move the Argentina Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

And this election took place in the middle of the 2023 Gaza War?!

Though there are more Arabs in Argentina than Jews, but the Jewish demographic is not small (for a Latin American nation) and still very influential, while the Arab demographics in Argentina tilt to the pro-Western Lebanese Maronite (Catholic) stock. This would not have happened in Chile, where the Arab demographic tilts towards the Palestinian stock.

Argentina’s Quite Influential Jewish Community

Argentina’s Quite Influential Jewish Community

Another break from dealing with Latin Armerica’s Arab communities:

Most Latin American countries have small Jewish populations. Hence the effect of the Jewish community on local politics is usually minimal. Not so for Argentina.

ARGENTINA HAS THE SIXTH LARGEST COMMUNITY OF JEWS IN THE WORLD (Click Here)

In Argentina, the Jewish community was quite noteable.


Posted on YouTube: 2020

Even Juan Perón had a Jewish advisor for economics, José Ber Gelbard.


Juan Perón and José Ber Gelbard

To set the record straight, Perón was not a Nazi. He admired Mussolini’s fascist economics, but not necessarily Mussolini’s politics. And while Perón allowed some Nazis in to Argentina after World War 2, he did so chiefly to get their technical skills. Perón was not an anti-Semite himself, and he certainly could not have imposed Nazi racial policies on a Latin country … and he knew it.

The Jewish community in Argentina used to be around two percent (2%) of the population in the past. That compares roughly to the historical percentage of the Jewish community in the United States in the 1960s.

There was a massive flight of Jews during the time of the military junta (1976-83), but even then, a massive amount of Jews remained in Argentina.

With around 180,000 Jews today, most of whom live in the Buenos Aires area, the Jews still have a massive effect on Argentina’s culture as well.

Because of this, Argentina’s reaction to the 2023 Gaza War is muted — at least when compared to the histrionics seen in Chile, where the influential politicized community of Palestinian-Chileans (Chilestinos) can force government policies.

So, taking an aside from the present (2023) Gaza War, let’s take another look at Jewish Buenos Aires.


Posted on YouTube: 2021

Jews even had a remarkable influence on Argentina’s tango.


Posted on YouTube: 2009

There was the tragic bombing of the Jewish Center in 1994, but that was done by Iranians.

Overall, Argentina has been quite friendly to Jews. Yes, there were some bigots at times, but Argentina was friendly enough to attract a massive amount of Jewish immigrants to the country from Europe.


Posted on YouTube: August 14, 2023
(Click Here) – This restaurant is world famous!


Posted on YouTube: Oct 16, 2022

This Jewish factor counts in world affairs. Chile recalled its ambassador (Click Here) from Israel over issues concerning the 2023 Gaza War. Argentina did not.

Yes, there are pro-Palestinian supporters in Argentina, but they can be easily matched by pro-Israel supporters.

So, who will decide in the contest between Arabs and Jews for the sympathies of Latin Americans?

The answer may surprise you.

In South America, it is the Evangelical Christians (who are usually Christian Zionist) who are starting to make their mark.


Posted on YouTube: May 15, 2023

The Evangelicals are growing fast in Latin America.

In Brazil, the population is 31% Evangelical.
In Guatemala, the population is 40% Evangelical.
In Honduras, the population is almost 40% Evangelical.
In Chile, the population is 18% Evangelical.
In Argentina, the population is 15% Evangelical.

In Chile, this is noticeable, as Palestinian-Chileans – who tend to be Eastern Christians or Roman Catholics – have complained about the Evangelicals. In Brazil, the former president, Bolsonaro, who was Evangelical, was very pro-Israel. True! He lost the last election, but under questionable circumstances. Pro-Israel feeling runs large in Brazil, even though it has roughly 15 million Arab-Brazilians.

In Honduras, when the Evangelicals hit 50%, it may not matter any longer what the powerful Palestinian-Hondurans think.

A lot of countries, who are pro-Palestine today, may shift their foreign policies very soon, as the Evangelical communities keeps growing, and very rapidly so.

Source: The Economist
April 5th, 2023
Marabá And Salvador

Evangelical Christianity is the fastest-growing religion in the region. Polls on religious beliefs vary widely, but around a fifth of Latin Americans identify as evangelicals, up from a tenth in 2002. In Guatemala and Honduras, they are set to overtake Roman Catholics as the dominant religion by 2030.

It is the Evangelicals who will decide this battle.

In the meantime, the Jews of Argentina are fascinating.

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