Conflict Can Only Come Of Such A Hardened Position

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Video above was posted on Twitter: June 19, 2022

Notice that most of the images of so-called Palestine, in the short video above, are in what is today considered Israel.

The poster, Muhammed Smiry (@muhammedsmiry), wants to erase Israel. He does not even recognize that Israel exists.

He claims to be from Gaza, which may explain his hardened attitude, however …

Sad!!! Conflict will be the only result.

A New Jewish State: Plan Andinia?! You Gotta Be Kidding!

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Sometimes you have to wonder if the safe assumption is that people are generally idiots, because this next story is proof that people will believe the most ridiculous things.

Worse yet, this idiocy is being pushed by Iran’s HispanTV. HispanTV is a propaganda outlet which, sadly, has influence in South America.

But first, we have to do a backgrounder.

WHAT IS PATAGONIA?

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Patagonia is in red.
Modified from Wikipedia Original.

Patagonia is the southern most region of South America, split between both Argentina and Chile. It was settled – by white governments – very late in history, only by the last quarter of the nineteenth century.

Until then, it was very sparsely populated – chiefly by native Mapuche and Tehuelche people – and up for grabs. Indeed Chile and Argentina vied for the area. They only agreed to split it around 1879, when Chile was at war with Peru and Bolivia.

So to Europeans, it was considered available for the taking, not really settled by anyone.

THE ORIGINAL ZIONISTS CONSIDERED ARGENTINA?

When Herzl published THE JEWISH STATE in 1896, his goal was to set up a state for the Jewish people, as an ethnic group … an ethnostate, where Jews would be safe. The security of the Jewish people was the primary issue. The location of this Jewish State was of secondary concern. Since the Holy Land was then controlled by Ottoman Turkey, Herzl pondered if areas of Argentina (which was then sparsely populated, even by whites) would make an agreeable area for a Jewish state.

In fact, Herzl wrote in the Jewish State …

Source: The Jewish State – Jewish Virtual Library

PALESTINE OR ARGENTINE?

Shall we choose Palestine or Argentine? We shall take what is given us, and what is selected by Jewish public opinion. The Society will determine both these points.

Argentine is one of the most fertile countries in the world, extends over a vast area, has a sparse population and a mild climate. The Argentine Republic would derive considerable profit from the cession of a portion of its territory to us. The present infiltration of Jews has certainly produced some discontent, and it would be necessary to enlighten the Republic on the intrinsic difference of our new movement.

However, even though Patagonia was not spelled out as the specific area in mind, it surely was considered.

It was true that Argentina was in debt and could use the money. It was true that Argentina was sparsely populated and could have spared a province or two.

Indeed, a Jewish philanthropist, Baron Maurice de Hirsch, had already set up a Jewish community [old video from 2011] in the Sante Fe Province of Argentina, in the subtropical pampas, northwest of Buenos Aires. He claimed to have secured promises from Argentine authorities to set up an autonomous province.

Source: 130 Jewish families arrived in Buenos Aires – World Jewish Congress.

On 14 August 1889, 130 Jewish families fleeing antisemitism and persecution in the Russian Empire arrived in Buenos Aires, Argentina, to restart their lives and begin a Jewish community. While the 824 Russian Jews were not the first Jews to arrive in Argentina, they were the first to establish a Jewish agricultural settlement in South America.

ARGENTINA WAS DISCUSSED AT THE FIRST ZIONIST CONGRESS

At the First Zionist Congress in Basel, Switzerland, in 1897, the idea was brought up.

Source: The Jewish Homeland – Rabbi Wein

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[Baron Hirsch] claimed that the Argentinean government acquiesced in this project and would cooperate fully in creating a Jewish autonomous state in Argentina. The representative of Baron Hirsch spoke for three and a half hours explaining the plan and pledging the resources of Baron Hirsch to its fulfillment. At midnight, after Hirsch’s representative finally finished his presentation and sat down, an old, stooped figure arose. He was Rabbi Shmuel Mohilever, the rabbi of Biyalistok and one of the founders of Chovevei Tziyon. He said: “May the Lord bless Baron Hirsch for his interest and endeavors and grant him long life and success. But we are going only to the Land of Israel.” And that statement ended the meeting.

However, the delegates at that Zionist Congress insisted on returning to the Holy Land. They would accept nothing less. The idea of a Patagonian Jewish state should have died then and there, but not among conspiracy theorists.

There is a belief among some anti-semitic South Americans, as well as among some Palestinian-Chileans, that Israel still wants to set up a Jewish state in Patagonia (both in Argentina and Chile), as a backup plan, should Israel ever fall.

In 2013, a Chilean senator, Eugenio Tuma, of Palestinian extraction, accused Israel of mapping out Southern Chile, with an eye to taking over Patagonia.

The irony is that it is NOT Jews, but rather Arabs, which have flooded into South America.

Yet, the Andinia Plan, which sounds like lunacy to American ears, can get real consideration in South American cicles. The idea may be preposterous, but people still believe it.

This has led to this:


Posted on YouTube: September 7, 2022

The documentary above is generally considered to be antisemitic in nature, yet there is a constituency in South America that still believes it.

This may be a sad commentary on human beings in general.

Even were someone antisemitic, reason alone should lead one to recognize Plan Andinia as preposterous.


November 16, 2023 – Edited: Had to get a new video for the Andinia documentary.

January 18, 2024 – Edited: Noted that this idiotic propaganda is being pushed by Iran.

Sadly: Chile’s Jewish Students Are Worried Over Hatred

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Chile’s large and very influential Palestinian (mostly Christian) community has added an anti-Israel influence to a lot of Chile’s culture and politics. I do not say all Chileans have this attitude, but it is magnified by the prosperity and clout of Chile’s Palestians. This is sad.

Source: Chile’s Jewish students situation grows worse by the day – opinion – Jerusalem Post – April 18, 2022

… Chile has long been a hotbed of anti-Israel extremism due to its population of half a million Palestinians, but the situation for Jewish students on campus grows worse by the day.

Sadly, the extremism in Chile that is often manifested as harassment of the Jewish community (in particular on campuses) has been largely ignored by Israel and the global Jewish world, as it has continued to grow.

Last week Chile’s Israel hatred finally went viral, with Chile even trending on Twitter in Israel during Chile’s “apartheid week.” The impetus? A visit from Arab-Israeli activist Yoseph Haddad, who spoke on multiple campuses about the cooperation between Arabs and Jews within Israel, contrary to the extremist narrative of the Palestinian community.

A major reason for this flare-up was a visit by Yousef Haddad, an Israeli-Arab who served in the IDF. Mr. Haddad – who says he is a Christian Arab – is a pro-Israel advocate, and the pro-Palestinian students did not appreciate his message.


Posted on YouTube: April 12, 2022

Chile is a bizarre outlier on this.

Historically, Chile has been tolerant and friendly to Jews, but the presence of half a million Palestinians in Chile has distorted the discussion.

Chile’s Senate Remembered Gazans?

Chile’s Senate Remembered Gazans?

Posted on YouTube: May 19, 2021

Can you image that in the U.S. Senate?

NO WAY!

The Palestinians in Chile have clout.

Senator Alejando Navarro, a leftist senator, started by mentioning how bad conditions in Gaza were. Then he noted that there was talk of a conquest of Gaza. Then the Senator put forth a request to remember the victims of both sides.

The president of the Senate approved the motion to remember the dead civilians and children of the Israel-Gaza war, but he kept the tone diplomatically neutral by re-stating that the moment of silence would be for the victims of all sides.

However, the Palestine Federation of Chile labelled their video on YouTube as if the Chilean Senate was honoring the Gazan victims – without mentioning that the moment of silence also remembered Israeli victims.

Make no mistake, the Palestine Federation of Chile is powerful in Chile. Even non-Arab-Chileans will yield to its influence.

One prominent Jewish Chilean has spoken in the past about the Palestinian-Chilean community’s power …

Source: Police in Chile guard Jews after anti-Semitic attacks – JPOST
August 18, 2010

The Palestinian community is to Chile what the Jewish community is to the U.S.

– Gabriel Zaliasnek, then president of Chile’s Jewish Federation

Remember that Chile is not a third-world dictatorship, but a borderline first-world country with a functioning democracy. It is a trend setter in Latin America.

Such pro-Palestinian sympathies in a Western democracy is troubling.

Both the Israelis and Jewish groups have started to notice this.

The World Jewish Congress posted this on YouTube last year:

Posted on YouTube: July 1, 2020

Jewish groups are not happy with Chile.

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