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Saturday, May 11th, 2013

003 – Real Arab Populations

The Number of Arabs in the Palestinian Territories may be exaggerated

Yoram Ettinger, an Israeli Demographer, has estimated that there are far less Arabs in Judea and Samaria (what the world calls the West Bank) than what Arab and UN official statistics claim.

He estimates that there are rougly 1.3 to 1.5 million Arabs in the contested areas, rather than the 2.5 million claimed. He blames this error on the Arab practice of double counting.

If Ettinger is right, there are, at most, 1.2 million young Arabs in the area – Arab demographics run towards the young.  Maybe even less young people.

Interview with Yoram Ettinger

In recent years, Yoram has made waves through his investigation of Palestinians demographic projections, made prominent through the publication of “The Million Person Gap: The Arab Population in the West Bank and Gaza,” by the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies at Bar Ilan University. The basic contention of the report is that through a thorough investigation of Palestinian demographic data from Israeli, Palestinian, and International data sources, that Palestinian population growth rates have been dramatically overstated. This to the point that the Palestinian Authority claims a population of more than 1.25 Million people more than actually reside in the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem combined: 2.49 million in mid-2004 rather than the projected 3.83 million reported by the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics.

The Arabs know they have a Demographic Problem

Fatwa forbids PA Muslims to emigrate
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH 06/10/2007 00:42

Alarmed by the growing number of Palestinians who are emigrating from the Palestinian territories, the Palestinian Authority’s mufti has issued a fatwa [religious decree] forbidding Muslims to leave.

The Numbers may be inflated by a Million

The Politics of Palestinian Demography

In 2005, an American and Israeli demography team headed by Bennett Zimmerman and Yoram Ettinger confirmed the 2003 findings and, again, criticized both the illegitimate inclusion of Arab emigrants from the Palestinian Authority and the double counting of the East Jerusalem Arab population. The Zimmerman and Ettinger study also revealed that, at the end of 2000, the Arab population in the West Bank and Gaza Strip numbered 2,246,000 people—1,280,000 in the West Bank and about 966,000 in the Gaza Strip.

Now maybe Yoram Ettinger’s numbers are a bit too low; but what is clear is that the Arabs are inflating their numbers, probably by a million or more.

The world estimates 2.5 Million Arabs in Judea and Samaria alone.  As shown, that figure may be way off.

Mr. Ettinger does not count Palestinians outside the territories.  That may be a bit dicey.  These may be outside the territories only temporarily for work.  Does he plan to strand these stateless people outside the territories at some point?  In any event, his overall thesis has some merit.

A Smaller Arab Population has consequences

If the Arab population is that much smaller, it begs the question:  Is it cheaper to move the settlers out of the Palestinian territories, or pay the Palestinians to leave?

Read the following posts in this series.

1) The Land and the Settlers
2) Cost to Uproot Settlers
3) Real Arab Populations
4) Cost Effectiveness
5) False Hopes
6) South America Assimilates Arabs
7) Paying Palestinians to Leave

May 12, 2017 – Edited: Added series list at bottom.

Tuesday, May 7th, 2013

002 – Cost to Uproot Settlers

Evacuating small settlements could cost NIS 250b – JPOST – By TOVAH LAZAROFF 04/30/2013

The evacuation of isolated West Bank Jewish communities outside of the settlement blocs could cost the government more than NIS 250 billion, the Council of Jewish Communities of Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip said on Monday.

NIS 250 Billion is roughly $70 Billion dollars.

It would cost $70 Billion just to evacuate the small settlements in Judea and Samaria (the contested areas).

Even that would not be enough to bring peace. It would still leave Judea and Samaria filled with large settlements that no Palestinian could accept.   When other other costs are added in, the numbers rise to the hundreds of billions of dollars (in US dollars), up to a trillion dollars.

That is even ignoring the violent settler backlash which would occur.

The cost of evacuating enough settlers in order to make the Palestinians happy would be prohibitive.

I am not going to get into a debate here about who is right or who is wrong. At this point, it is meaningless. It is too late to correct, now.

Okay the Cost is Prohibitive, but what about the large Number of Arabs in  Judea and Samaria?

Read the following posts in this series.

1) The Land and the Settlers
2) Cost to Uproot Settlers
3) Real Arab Populations
4) Cost Effectiveness
5) False Hopes
6) South America Assimilates Arabs
7) Paying Palestinians to Leave

May 12, 2017 – Edited: Added series list at bottom.

Monday, May 6th, 2013

001 – The Land and the Settlers

A biblical viewpoint agreeable to both
Jewish and Christian fundamentalists

One could argue that Israel has a historic claim to Judea and Samaria (what the world calls the West Bank) – and I would agree. However, there are over a million Arabs in the area.

The Arabs want the Jews out of Judea and Samaria

The Arabs claim Judea and Samaria (which they call the West Bank) is their historical Arab homeland. The Arabs claim International Law supports them, and the Israelis should retreat to pre-1967 borders (which are actually 1949 Armstice borders).

The Jews say Judea and Samaria was given to them by the League of Nations Mandate in 1920, at the San Remo Conference of 1920, when the Mandate was created to make a homeland for the Jewish people.

The Arabs say that European powers had no right to give away Arab lands.

The Jews will reply that the Arabs cannot cite International Law only when it suits them. If the Arabs don’t want to acknowledge the validity of International Law regarding San Remo, they then they Arabs can’t cite International Law regarding the ownership of Judea and Samaria, now.

Both sides ignore International opinion when it suits them.

And the dance goes on. No one will agree.

Let’s ignore International Law for a second

Before we even discuss whose claim is better, we had better settle whether evacuation of the Jews from the contested areas is even possible.

At this point does it matter who is right or wrong?

No  one will agree who is right or wrong in this struggle.

But this we can agree on:  Any evacuation will have severe consequences.  If we put aside morality, for a second, the severe consequences of evacuating Jews to make way for a Palestinian state may determine our solution.

We are going to concentrate on those Settlers who are violent

Not all settlers are violent; but enough are, and their numbers are growing. Some of these have been known to go ballistic and kill innocent Palestinians when they feel threatened in any way, even if the threat comes from the Israel state seeking to enforce an evacuation.

We aren’t we concentrating on Arab violence?

The Arabs are indeed very violent; but in this case, Arab violence is mostly ineffective and counter-productive.  Israel contains it.  Israel does not really contain settler violence; and often does not attempt to contain it.  In the end, the violence of the Israeli settlers will prove to be more organized, better armed, and more effective.  It certainly will have more of an effect on the final outcome than Arab violence.

This first in-depth look concerns the Jewish Settlers of the contested areas (what the world calls the West Bank). We do this not because we prefer the Jews or the Arabs, but simply put, because it will be the Settler’s violence which will be determinative, not the Arab violence which, while brutal, is undisciplined, and ultimately counter-productive.

(I aim to get the rest of the videos later
Settlers are known to get violent when threatened!

A) Baruch Goldstein shot up a mosque in Hebron and kiled 29 Arabs in 1994.

Results: Baruch Goldstein became a hero to many radical settlers; and believe it or not, the Palestinians were punished by having Hebron’s chief market place, Shuhada Street closed.

Officially, the given reason was to prevent Palestinian reprisals; however the result was that Palestinians were punished for the actions of a crazed Jewish activist.

B) Yigal Amir assassinated Ytzhak Rabin for signing Oslo.

C) Eden Natan-Zada killed 4 Arabs in a bus inside Israel to protest the withdrawal from Gush Katif, in 2005.

ResultsAmazingly, Israel prosecuted the Arabs who stopped Natan-Zada, for killing him.

Officially, the given reason was that the Arabs killed Natan-Zada after he was disarmed.  In reality, there are cases where Arabs have died under Israeli custody, and no questions were asked: The Notorious Bus 300 Affair.   So how come, when an Arab is killed, no questions are asked, but when a Jewish murderer was killed, the Arabs are prosecuted?

D) Asher Weissgan killed 4 Palestinians to stop the withdrawal from Gush Katif in the Gaza Strip, in 2005.  He later committed suicide in prison.

What should be clear from all of this is that there is a very violent segment of Israel society who would kill massive amounts of Palestinians should a two-state solution ever even come close to implemention.

Judea and Samaria are the Jewish heartland

If you crack open a bible, most of the cities mentioned are in Judea and Samaria (the Palestinian territories).   The Jews will never give this up.  Jerusalem is more dear to them that Tel Aviv.   Bethlehem was David’s birthplace.

To these settlers, they must take the land and possess it to hasten the redemption of the world.

If you think the settlers are violent now, wait until they are told to evacuate Judea and Samaria.   It cannot be ruled out that some would attempt mass murder of Palestinians before government was able to effect any evacuation at all.  

As awful as it may be to consider, an Israeli Jewish equivalent of Einsatzgruppen murder squads may start killing Palestinians to stop any withdrawl from the contested areas.

Strongly Orthodox Jewish Nationalist influence is growing in the IDF (Israel Defense Forces). The IDF cannot be relied on, even now, to contain Settler violence. A good part of the IDF would look the other way.

I am not even taking sides. I am just making an observation.

Price Tag attacks are common now

Even now, it is common practice among some radical settlers to commit Price Tag attacks on innocent Palestinians, whenever something does not go their way.

No one denies Arab violence, but the violent Jewish settlers are better armed; with some having military training, and some are capable of organized murder.

Any attempt at removing settlements will result in mass violence.  At least 8 Palestinians were killed over the Gush Katif withdrawal. The settlers are even more radicalized now.

An attempt to evacuate settlements in Judea and Samaria would result in major violence.  It does not even matter who is right in this struggle. Violence is going to occur.

So what can be done

Read the following posts in this series.

1) The Land and the Settlers
2) Cost to Uproot Settlers
3) Real Arab Populations
4) Cost Effectiveness
5) False Hopes
6) South America Assimilates Arabs
7) Paying Palestinians to Leave

May 12, 2017 – Edited: Added series list at bottom.

Saturday, May 4th, 2013


May the Palestinians could go

If one assumes that the Israelis are (or ever were) serious about a two-state solution in the Mideast, please dispense with that idea forever.

The two-state solution is dead.

There are roughly 800,000 Settlers in the contested areas. To move even a portion of the them would cost tens to hundreds of billions of dollars. It is not going to happen.

So it boils down to this:

Israel is not going to leave Judea and Samaria (what the world calls the West Bank).

Yet, there are roughly two million hostile Arabs in the contested area.

What should be done with these Palestinians.

A) Israel refuses to enfranchise the Palestinians.

B) Martial Law is not sustainable. One cannot expect a people to remain quiet under military rule, especially after decades.

C) The Muslim states refuse to absorb the Palestinians; they want the problem to fester and overwhelm Israel.

So what is to be done with the Palestinians?

No one wants them. Not the Israelis; not their fellow Muslims.



I am going to suggest that South America might welcome them if they came in with enough cash.

I know it sounds crazy. But I will develop these ideas over a serious of posts.


It should not be dismissed as crazy. Nothing else is working.

The whole series.

1) The Land and the Settlers
2) Cost to Uproot Settlers
3) Real Arab Populations
4) Cost Effectiveness
5) False Hopes
6) South America Assimilates Arabs
7) Paying Palestinians to Leave

May 12, 2017 – Edited: Added series list at bottom. Updated some data.

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