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Sunday, May 26th, 2013

I am Palestinian – Chile

This is a new video from Chile that I translated.

The is the UGEP (General Union of Palestinian Students) in Chile.

The Palestinians are elites in Chile, and they are swinging the policies of an up and coming Chile. Chile is now first world, and the rising star of Latin America.

FREE PALESTINE - UGEP - Chile

FREE PALESTINE
Building a bridge of dialogue
in place of a Separational Wall.

The General Union of Palestinians Students (UGEP in Spanish) is not a small force to be ignored.

Yasser Arafat came out the Mideastern Branch of the Palestinian Student Union.

As you can see by that map on the poster, to the left, The UGEP does not recognize Israel at all.  As far as the UGEP is concerned, all of Israel is Palestine.

The video above portrays idealistic Chilean Youth. No doubt, many are.  What the video does not show is that the UGEP advocates the destruction of Israel.  The poster’s words advocate dialogue.  The poster’s map advocate destruction.

The UGEP, even in Chile where almost all Palestinians are Christian, advocates a very hard party line.

It may not look as severe because the women are Christians, and not burqa clad women with their roiling tongue curdling screams; but in the end, they advocate no less that their Muslim cousins.


Note: My own view is nuanced: Historically, the  Jew have the best claim to Israel for many reasons. I do not see Jews as invaders to their own patrimony in the Mideast.  The Jews do have a claim to the land.

But, sadly, neither can I deny that the Israelis ethnically cleansed the Palestinians in 1948 and 1967, nor that Palestinians were and are mistreated.  No nation is perfect.   We Americans were not perfect.   Chile – the nation these youth live in how – was guilty of ethnically cleansing its Mapuche and Quechua Indians.   No nation is perfect.

Innocent people were hurt in 1948; and yes, that includes innocent Arabs.

Unlike these youth, I do NOT  think the destruction of Israel as a homeland for the Jews is the answer. That would be insane.  Destroying or re-defining the Jewishness out of Israel is not the answer to the problem.

Israel has a right to be the homeland for the Jewish people.

There is too much hurt, too much history, and too much blood, for the Jews to surrender their state.

Sadly, there is too much hurt, too much history, and too much blood, for the Palestinians to forget.

Islam is too radicalized for the Israeli Jews to trust their fate to a one-state solution, which allows for the Palestinians to return; and which restores an angry Islamic majority to the land. Israeli Jews will never do it. Nor should they be asked to dissolve their state.


THE BEST SOLUTION
!

I think the best solution is to pay the Palestinians to leave for the West, preferably South America, which has  history of assimilating the Arabs well.

Pay them well … about $100,000 per Palestinian.

This may not be a totally just solution, but it is the least destructive.   I know it is awful to ask the Palestinians to surrender their claims to the land; but the only alternative is nuclear war – a nuclear war where they would be targeted.

I know some will say: It is not right to write the Palestinians out of history.  You are right!

Indeed it is wrong to write the Palestinians out of history.

It would be FAR MORE WRONG to write Israel out of history.

Ultimately – as cruel as it may sound – this cold logic applies:  If there are 22 Arab states, it would be wrong to dismantle the only Jewish state to correct the injustice and to restore another Arab state.

It is wrong to deny the Palestinians a right to return, but it is MORE WRONG to dismantle Israel as the homeland for the Jews.

There is no  completely just solution here … only a less destructive one.

Denying Israel is NOT the answer.

The Jewish right to Israel and Jerusalem is solid.

I am not saying Palestinians were not hurt; but the destruction of Israel is NOT the answer.

Finally, there is a spiritual side to this.

On the spiritual side, Israel is totally right.   There may be some political wrongs, but in the end, Israel has the better claim.

Tuesday, May 14th, 2013

004 – Cost Effectiveness

From the Jerusalem Post:

‘Evacuating small settlements could cost NIS 250b.’

By TOVAH LAZAROFF 04/30/2013 06:28


The evacuation of isolated West Bank Jewish communities outside of the settlement blocs could cost the government more than NIS 250 billion, the Council of Jewish Communities of Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip said on Monday.

NIS 250 Billion (New Israeli Shekels) is about US $70 Billion.

This is what it would cost to remove some of the smaller settlements in Judea and Samaria (what the world calls the West Bank). That would be just a fraction of the cost of a creating a Palestinian state. The real cost of creating a Palesitnian state would approach a trillon dollars.

The Two State Solution is dead 

Blame the Arabs or blame Israel with its settlement expansion. Does it matter?  It is dead.   There is no way, Judea and Samaria can be evacuated, even if one were to ignore the threat of settler violence which would follow implementation of evacuation.

A Better Solution 

Israel would do better to offer each young, unemployed, and landless Palestinians US $100,000 per person to leave for South America, along with travelling papers.

$70 Billion would allow 700,000 Palestinians to leave Judea and Samaria.

That is almost half of the up and coming young Arab generation in Judea and Samaria.

A young family of five, who are living in a small apartment, could be given $500,000 (5 x $100,000) to leave for South America.

In South America, $500,000 could buy them a nice house in a major town, as well as a business, and a car, with money left over to put in the bank.

Why South America?

Read the following posts in this series.

1) The Land and the Settlers
2) Cost to Uproot Settlers
3) Real Arab Populations
4) Cost Effectiveness
5) False Hopes
6) South America Assimilates Arabs
7) Paying Palestinians to Leave


May 12, 2017 – Edited: Added series list at bottom.

Saturday, May 11th, 2013

003 – Real Arab Populations

The Number of Arabs in the Palestinian Territories may be exaggerated

Yoram Ettinger, an Israeli Demographer, has estimated that there are far less Arabs in Judea and Samaria (what the world calls the West Bank) than what Arab and UN official statistics claim.

He estimates that there are rougly 1.3 to 1.5 million Arabs in the contested areas, rather than the 2.5 million claimed. He blames this error on the Arab practice of double counting.

If Ettinger is right, there are, at most, 1.2 million young Arabs in the area – Arab demographics run towards the young.  Maybe even less young people.

Interview with Yoram Ettinger

In recent years, Yoram has made waves through his investigation of Palestinians demographic projections, made prominent through the publication of “The Million Person Gap: The Arab Population in the West Bank and Gaza,” by the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies at Bar Ilan University. The basic contention of the report is that through a thorough investigation of Palestinian demographic data from Israeli, Palestinian, and International data sources, that Palestinian population growth rates have been dramatically overstated. This to the point that the Palestinian Authority claims a population of more than 1.25 Million people more than actually reside in the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem combined: 2.49 million in mid-2004 rather than the projected 3.83 million reported by the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics.

The Arabs know they have a Demographic Problem

Fatwa forbids PA Muslims to emigrate
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH 06/10/2007 00:42

Alarmed by the growing number of Palestinians who are emigrating from the Palestinian territories, the Palestinian Authority’s mufti has issued a fatwa [religious decree] forbidding Muslims to leave.

The Numbers may be inflated by a Million

The Politics of Palestinian Demography

In 2005, an American and Israeli demography team headed by Bennett Zimmerman and Yoram Ettinger confirmed the 2003 findings and, again, criticized both the illegitimate inclusion of Arab emigrants from the Palestinian Authority and the double counting of the East Jerusalem Arab population. The Zimmerman and Ettinger study also revealed that, at the end of 2000, the Arab population in the West Bank and Gaza Strip numbered 2,246,000 people—1,280,000 in the West Bank and about 966,000 in the Gaza Strip.

Now maybe Yoram Ettinger’s numbers are a bit too low; but what is clear is that the Arabs are inflating their numbers, probably by a million or more.

The world estimates 2.5 Million Arabs in Judea and Samaria alone.  As shown, that figure may be way off.

Mr. Ettinger does not count Palestinians outside the territories.  That may be a bit dicey.  These may be outside the territories only temporarily for work.  Does he plan to strand these stateless people outside the territories at some point?  In any event, his overall thesis has some merit.

A Smaller Arab Population has consequences

If the Arab population is that much smaller, it begs the question:  Is it cheaper to move the settlers out of the Palestinian territories, or pay the Palestinians to leave?

Read the following posts in this series.

1) The Land and the Settlers
2) Cost to Uproot Settlers
3) Real Arab Populations
4) Cost Effectiveness
5) False Hopes
6) South America Assimilates Arabs
7) Paying Palestinians to Leave


May 12, 2017 – Edited: Added series list at bottom.

Tuesday, May 7th, 2013

002 – Cost to Uproot Settlers

Evacuating small settlements could cost NIS 250b – JPOST – By TOVAH LAZAROFF 04/30/2013

The evacuation of isolated West Bank Jewish communities outside of the settlement blocs could cost the government more than NIS 250 billion, the Council of Jewish Communities of Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip said on Monday.

NIS 250 Billion is roughly $70 Billion dollars.

It would cost $70 Billion just to evacuate the small settlements in Judea and Samaria (the contested areas).

Even that would not be enough to bring peace. It would still leave Judea and Samaria filled with large settlements that no Palestinian could accept.   When other other costs are added in, the numbers rise to the hundreds of billions of dollars (in US dollars), up to a trillion dollars.

That is even ignoring the violent settler backlash which would occur.

The cost of evacuating enough settlers in order to make the Palestinians happy would be prohibitive.

I am not going to get into a debate here about who is right or who is wrong. At this point, it is meaningless. It is too late to correct, now.

Okay the Cost is Prohibitive, but what about the large Number of Arabs in  Judea and Samaria?

Read the following posts in this series.

1) The Land and the Settlers
2) Cost to Uproot Settlers
3) Real Arab Populations
4) Cost Effectiveness
5) False Hopes
6) South America Assimilates Arabs
7) Paying Palestinians to Leave


May 12, 2017 – Edited: Added series list at bottom.

Monday, May 6th, 2013

001 – The Land and the Settlers

A biblical viewpoint agreeable to both
Jewish and Christian fundamentalists

One could argue that Israel has a historic claim to Judea and Samaria (what the world calls the West Bank) – and I would agree. However, there are over a million Arabs in the area.

The Arabs want the Jews out of Judea and Samaria

The Arabs claim Judea and Samaria (which they call the West Bank) is their historical Arab homeland. The Arabs claim International Law supports them, and the Israelis should retreat to pre-1967 borders (which are actually 1949 Armstice borders).

The Jews say Judea and Samaria was given to them by the League of Nations Mandate in 1920, at the San Remo Conference of 1920, when the Mandate was created to make a homeland for the Jewish people.

The Arabs say that European powers had no right to give away Arab lands.

The Jews will reply that the Arabs cannot cite International Law only when it suits them. If the Arabs don’t want to acknowledge the validity of International Law regarding San Remo, they then they Arabs can’t cite International Law regarding the ownership of Judea and Samaria, now.

Both sides ignore International opinion when it suits them.

And the dance goes on. No one will agree.

Let’s ignore International Law for a second

Before we even discuss whose claim is better, we had better settle whether evacuation of the Jews from the contested areas is even possible.

At this point does it matter who is right or wrong?

No  one will agree who is right or wrong in this struggle.

But this we can agree on:  Any evacuation will have severe consequences.  If we put aside morality, for a second, the severe consequences of evacuating Jews to make way for a Palestinian state may determine our solution.

We are going to concentrate on those Settlers who are violent

Not all settlers are violent; but enough are, and their numbers are growing. Some of these have been known to go ballistic and kill innocent Palestinians when they feel threatened in any way, even if the threat comes from the Israel state seeking to enforce an evacuation.

We aren’t we concentrating on Arab violence?

The Arabs are indeed very violent; but in this case, Arab violence is mostly ineffective and counter-productive.  Israel contains it.  Israel does not really contain settler violence; and often does not attempt to contain it.  In the end, the violence of the Israeli settlers will prove to be more organized, better armed, and more effective.  It certainly will have more of an effect on the final outcome than Arab violence.

This first in-depth look concerns the Jewish Settlers of the contested areas (what the world calls the West Bank). We do this not because we prefer the Jews or the Arabs, but simply put, because it will be the Settler’s violence which will be determinative, not the Arab violence which, while brutal, is undisciplined, and ultimately counter-productive.





ISRAEL’S NEXT WAR
(I aim to get the rest of the videos later
)
Settlers are known to get violent when threatened!

A) Baruch Goldstein shot up a mosque in Hebron and kiled 29 Arabs in 1994.

Results: Baruch Goldstein became a hero to many radical settlers; and believe it or not, the Palestinians were punished by having Hebron’s chief market place, Shuhada Street closed.

Officially, the given reason was to prevent Palestinian reprisals; however the result was that Palestinians were punished for the actions of a crazed Jewish activist.


B) Yigal Amir assassinated Ytzhak Rabin for signing Oslo.


C) Eden Natan-Zada killed 4 Arabs in a bus inside Israel to protest the withdrawal from Gush Katif, in 2005.

ResultsAmazingly, Israel prosecuted the Arabs who stopped Natan-Zada, for killing him.

Officially, the given reason was that the Arabs killed Natan-Zada after he was disarmed.  In reality, there are cases where Arabs have died under Israeli custody, and no questions were asked: The Notorious Bus 300 Affair.   So how come, when an Arab is killed, no questions are asked, but when a Jewish murderer was killed, the Arabs are prosecuted?


D) Asher Weissgan killed 4 Palestinians to stop the withdrawal from Gush Katif in the Gaza Strip, in 2005.  He later committed suicide in prison.

What should be clear from all of this is that there is a very violent segment of Israel society who would kill massive amounts of Palestinians should a two-state solution ever even come close to implemention.

Judea and Samaria are the Jewish heartland

If you crack open a bible, most of the cities mentioned are in Judea and Samaria (the Palestinian territories).   The Jews will never give this up.  Jerusalem is more dear to them that Tel Aviv.   Bethlehem was David’s birthplace.

To these settlers, they must take the land and possess it to hasten the redemption of the world.

If you think the settlers are violent now, wait until they are told to evacuate Judea and Samaria.   It cannot be ruled out that some would attempt mass murder of Palestinians before government was able to effect any evacuation at all.  

As awful as it may be to consider, an Israeli Jewish equivalent of Einsatzgruppen murder squads may start killing Palestinians to stop any withdrawl from the contested areas.

Strongly Orthodox Jewish Nationalist influence is growing in the IDF (Israel Defense Forces). The IDF cannot be relied on, even now, to contain Settler violence. A good part of the IDF would look the other way.

I am not even taking sides. I am just making an observation.

Price Tag attacks are common now

Even now, it is common practice among some radical settlers to commit Price Tag attacks on innocent Palestinians, whenever something does not go their way.

No one denies Arab violence, but the violent Jewish settlers are better armed; with some having military training, and some are capable of organized murder.

Any attempt at removing settlements will result in mass violence.  At least 8 Palestinians were killed over the Gush Katif withdrawal. The settlers are even more radicalized now.

An attempt to evacuate settlements in Judea and Samaria would result in major violence.  It does not even matter who is right in this struggle. Violence is going to occur.

So what can be done

Read the following posts in this series.

1) The Land and the Settlers
2) Cost to Uproot Settlers
3) Real Arab Populations
4) Cost Effectiveness
5) False Hopes
6) South America Assimilates Arabs
7) Paying Palestinians to Leave


May 12, 2017 – Edited: Added series list at bottom.

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