Lebanese at 27th annual Ethnic Festival in Rosario

Argentina has a national Ethnic Groups day.

This is the Lebanese section of a 27th annual ethnic festival, in Rosario, which is Argentina’s third biggest city, about 180 miles NW of Buenos Aires.

Depending on who you ask, 8% to 10% of Argentines have some Arab background, though in some cases it is heavily diluted with Spanish, Italian, etc. Mostly Syrian Orthodox or Maronite Catholic. They tend to be less radicalized than Chile’s Palestinians, who are almost totally Christian.

Oddly, Argentina has a bit more Muslims, but they seem to be less radicalized because the Palestinian presence – even a Christian one – is minimal; whereas in Chile, half the Arabs are Palestinian.

Argentina’s Muslims are about 10% of the Arab population – which translates to about 1% of the total population. However, the Muslims in Argentina tend to be totally assimilated. Their own imams try to exaggerate the numbers, but Pedro Brieger, an Argentine Acadamic, has noted that in 2003 the real numbers of practicing Muslims were grossly exaggerated.1

The prevalence of Syrian Orthodox and Maronite Catholic seems to moderate the views of Argentine Arabs. Yes, there is some degree of support for Palestine. That is to be expected from any Arab community; but you do not see the large scale political support one sees in Chile.

The reason I suspect is that Palestinians are less common in Argentina.


1See: La Comunidad Musulmana en la Argentina (In Spanish), Pedro Brieger.
Los datos, extraoficiales, son importantes si se tiene en cuenta que en promedio se habla en Argentina de familias tipo de cuatro integrantes, lo que implicaría que en la ciudad de Buenos Aires habría un poco más que 4500 musulmanes, muy alejado del imaginario popular

Translation: The data, unofficial, are important if one considers that an average family in Argentina speaks of four types, which would imply that the city of Buenos Aires would have a little more than 4500 Muslims, far from the popular imagination

My Note: The Buenos Aires Metro area has 1/3rd of Argentina’s population. Immigrants tend to be found in Buenos Aires rather than the outlying areas which usually have older stocks. So we can assume even lower concentrations outside Buenos Aires. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule.

Former President Carlos Menem’s Syrian Muslim parents settled in the interior La Rioja Province; but they ran a winery, a practice forbidden to Muslims; so even the exceptions prove the rule. Carlos himself converted to Catholicism.

What this means, in effect, is less than 10,000 practicing Muslims in a country of 41,000,000. Or roughly about 0.025% practicing Muslims.

This is changing. The Saudi financed King Fahd Mosque is probably re-invigorating some renewed interest in the lapsed Muslim community which is considerably larger. But it is competing with a rising Evangelical Revival sweeping all of South America, even Argentina, which is now 9% Evangelical. Until recently, Protestantism was primarily found among some Swedish- and German-Argentines and the Anglo-American resident communities; but that is changing, apparently rapidly so.

I doubt even a resurgent Islam can compete with it.

Chile’s Palestinian Radicalism-02

Yesterday, we examined, albeit incompletely, the radicalizaion of Palestinian-Chileans. We found that two reasons were

1) ethic pride,

2) a myopic historical which forgets that their ancestors were persecuted by Muslims.

The next reason we will examine is the creeping trend of Iranian and Saudi Islamic influence which is shooting throughout all of Latin America.


Posted on YouTube: 2011
Note: TeleSUR is a media project centered in Hugo Chavez’s
Venezuela which owns a 51% share.Translated by someone
better at Spanish than me

TeleSUR (TV South) is a media conglomerate financed by several left wing Latin American countries, with Venezuela financing a majority 51% share. Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez is a noted anti-Zionist and supporter of Iran. Naturally, this attitude saturates the Network.

In Buenos Aires, the Saudi funded King Fahd Mosque is now broadcasting Islamic propaganda on a program on Argentine Public TV.


El cálamo y su mensaje/The Quill and its Message1
Saudi Financed!

There has been a strong penetration of Oil Money in South America. Inspite of the still lingering Argentine anger of the Iranian bombing of the AMIA Jewish center in Buenos Aires in 1994, Argentina, along with almost every other country in South America, recognized the Palestinian State.


LEARN TO WRITE & SPEAK ARABIC
If Chilean Arabs are Christian,
why the picture of a Mosque?

This cannot be chalked up to mere Arab nationalism. About half of the Arabs in South America are descended from Lebanese Maronite Christians whose ancestors fled Muslim slaughters in both the 19th and 20th centuries. Maronites tend to have a more Western viewpoint; and tend to moderate against strong anti-Israel sentiment. Christians of Syrian Orthodox descent would also harbor no illusions about the creeping militancy of Islamic advocacy.2 These may have no love for Israel, but they are not going to be given to anti-Israel extremism either.

Only Chile, and Honduras, have noticeably powerful Palestian communities which stand out from other Arabs.

Most of Latin America’s Arabs are Christians who were dhimmis before they emigrated.

What is going on is not merely ethnic pride, nor a myopic historical memory at work, nor even the echo of a Catholic culture’s latent anti-semitism, but a large infusion of cash and a massive effort by Islamic regimes to purchase Latin American influence.

Arab language classes are often held in mosques rather than in non-sectarian settings. Clearly the agenda is more than linguistics. Now, this would not be bad in an of itself, coming under the general heading of Freedom of Religion; but along with it comes a fierce anti-Israel world view.

Adding to the mix is a new Iranian Spanish language network called HispanTV which was meant to counter the Western Media. The program is similar to the English language PressTV3, which is a media shill for Iran.


Complaining about Israeli settlers in Silwan – Iran’s HispanTV

This is clearing Iran pushing an agenda. In America, PressTV is largely unknown. In South America, HispanTV may take off.

Already known is Iran’s use of South American drug running to generate money for Hezbollah.4

Both Arab and Iranian money are filtering into South America to push an Agenda.

In the next part of this discussion we will discuss Israeli mistakes: past, and present; and we’ll what Israel can do to correct this issue.

Palestinian Radicalism-01
Palestinian Radicalism-02
Palestinian Radicalism-03


1More worrying was that a popular Arab-Argentine Show, Desde El Aljibe/From the Well, which was secular and primarly run by Christian Arabs, was cancelled to make way for an Islamic show that almost no one wanted. 90% of Argentine Arabs are Christian. Suspicions run that money and Saudi influence were involved. Likely so, it indicates that Arab Oil Money is wreaking havoc in South America.

2Many Christian Syrians, both internally and externally, support the secular Bashir Assad against the Islamic insurgency.

3PressTV is a viciously anti-Israel network with a large satellite presence – though the UK has recently revoked its broadcast license – and an even larger internet presence . It regularly hosts holocaust deniers, “Jewish conspiracy” theorists, and a host of crackpots who are fobbed off as experts.

It is notable for only having female announcers that wear hijabs; most famously Lauren Booth, a half-sister of Tony Blair’s wife, and convert to Islam.

But its most famous star is the Stentorian British Parliamentarian George Galloway who has two programs on the network; and not just on Press TV: Galloway is on WBAI radio in New York, and has a show in Lebanon. He brags of his mixed Irish and Scottish background and his love for Palestine. Abstemious from alcohol – always a suspicious trait in a Celt – Galloway appeals to Britain’s radical left and Muslim vote. He is very hostile to Israel. After divorcing his first wife, a Christian; Galloway has gone through a succession of Muslim wives. Though Galloway refuses to admit it, the general opinion is that he converted to Islam; though no one is sure whether Sunni or Shi’a.

He would be relegated to the realm of lunatics, except that Galloway is arguably the best orator in the English language since Kennedy or Churchill. He commands a booming voice, and a rhetorical style that is positively breathtaking. He has bested newspaper critics, the Canadian government which sought to ban him, the British Labour party, and even the US Congress, whom he personally castigated before a Senate Committee. He has hosted a popular radio show in Britain and is now back in their Parliament, after winning an election by appealing to the Muslim vote, which is a scary thought in itself.

He is Press TV’s star, and his politics are scary.

4See Hezbollah builds a Western base (in Spanish)(Click Here). While some of the claims are exaggerated, there have been Hezbollah agents captured in the area. (Click Here). The Triple Frontier, where Argentina, Paraguay, and Brazil meet, has been a poorly policed smugglers paradise for decades, even before the rise of Islam. It should not surpise anyone that Hezbollah acts in the area. It is believed the crew which did the 1994 AMIA bombing in Buenos Aires set out from the Triple Frontier.


December 31, 2023 – Change text under a video. Made more mobile friendly.

Site History

Site History

This site sort of began with a video. I found this video on the internet and it fascinated me.

This is a translated version of the video that started this whole process:


Original video I found in 2011 – (Click here)

In the late spring of 2011, as I was practicing my poor Spanish, I found a video protesting the actions of an Islamic Center in Argentina.

Muslims?!

In Argentina?! The land of the gaucho and the tango?!

Well, when I saw that video at the top of the page, bells rang off in my head.

4 Million Arab-Argentines in a country of only 45 Million people?!

What were Arabs doing in Argentina?!

How many are Christian; how many are Muslim?

And most importantly:

How come we rarely hear about this in America?!

In my effort to track down the story behind that video above, I walked into a major subculture; a subculture that I, like most Americans, had no idea even existed, and certainly no idea that it was so massive.

With my poor Spanish, and some e-mails to a wonderfully helpful Argentine, I was able to put together a story about a popular Arab-Argentine TV show called DESDE EL ALJIBE (From the Well), which was run by secular Christian Arabs, mostly Maronite Lebanese, on Argentina’s Public TV Channel 7. It was broadcast on Public TV from Buenos Aires, whose metropolitan area contains about one-third of Argentina’s population. The show was in Spanish – most Arab-South Americans cannot speak Arabic. Apparently, it had a large potential audience.

The show was a weekly Arab-Argentine variety show. The producers and directors let everyone on; but most tellingly the show was not held hostage to a religious agenda. They had Christian, Jewish, and Muslim guests. It was about Arab cooking, history, music, dance, travelogues, etc. Yes, they had on political guests, but most of the time it was just a television folk gathering of a large ethnic community. Interesting music, recipes, tid bits, and they usually closed with an Arab Dance troupe, before cutting to some credits and closing ads by Argentine sponsers against a background of pictures of the Mideast.

Quite interesting! It was aimed at a broad audience, not just Arabs. It shows the clout of South American Arabs that they could even get such shows on Public TV.


Desde El Aljibe – Argentina Public TV – Channel 7
Broadcast Date: April 9, 2005
Yabalna Folk Ballet – Dirs. Nur Kumar and Hanna Al Hasan
Music: Awal Suhur – Mario Kirlis
Credit/Source: ElAljibedetodos (who deserves all the credit for assembling these videos)
NOTE: At the ending there are Argentine sponsors, and Argentina’s Channel 7 credits

THE CANCELLATION

In May 2011, after an 8 year run, DESDE EL ALJIBE was cancelled by Argentina’s Public TV to make way for an Islamic TV show called El CÁLAMO Y SU MENSAJE (The Quill and its Message) produced by the Saudi financed King Fahd Mosque in Buenos Aires (which is a story in itself), and which is a blantant piece of Islamic prosyletizing to an Argentina that didn’t need it, and didn’t want it.

The problem was: The Arab-Argentine community, about 4 Million strong, was furious. About 90% of the Arabs in Argentina are Christian. Until recently, the Muslims among them were non-practicing. Nobody wanted Saudi religious propaganda, let alone to have it replace a popular secular Arab TV show. Which is why FEARAB-Argentina (Federation of Arab Societies – Argentina) made that protest video, which I translated at the top of the page.

To suddenly replace it with Muslim broadcasting, for which there was no demand, from a Muslim organization financed openly by Saudi Arabia, indicated that something was wrong in the state of Denmark or, at least in this case, the state of Argentina. Argentina is only about 1% Muslim and the vast majority are NOT practicing.


THE QUILL AND ITS MESSAGE
Why on earth would this be allowed on Argentine Public TV?!

It made no sense at all.

In tracking down this mystery, I became intrigued by this other subculture.This website is the result.

NOTE (2021): Apparently, the Muslim show, El CÁLAMO Y SU MENSAJE, has also been cancelled. No market for it in Argentina. The question remains: Why did the Argentina government cancel the popular secular TV show, DESDE EL ALJIBE, to replace it with Muslim propaganda?


October 25, 2017 – Edited, minor updates.
July 17, 2020 – Edited, minor updates.
September 4, 2020 – Made mobile friendly
May 5, 2021 – Edited: Got rid of dead links. Added update info. Fixed dead link.

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